Keno Monster said:I'd like to know what the web developer they hired in the spring did in the last 7 months before taking another job.
Yikes, its always a gamble with new employees- Glad it didn’t go on for longer then 7 months whatever it was.
You just get dud‘s sometimes, a lot of people know how to hold a broomstick and look busy. Sometimes people can skate like that for years. Sometimes the dud isn’t even the employee: I’m sure especially in the art/entertainment industry more often then not the dud is nothing more than creative differences.
Who knows if it was even any of that though. 7 months is a win with responding to cards you’re dealt, that’s all that matters.
What I’m curious about now Mr.Curious: is how you stumbled upon this sauce and what your intent is to insinuate it’s ingreedients in the manner that you have?
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I think people need to take in the words of the great Aarons Rodgers and "R-E-L-A-X" and stop stirring up crap that does nothing but get the community all riled up for no reason at all, this entire topic was nothing but click bait knowing people would respond to it, so let's stop this now, and find something that's actually worth talking about, and not be the people that keep stirring the pot, you know who you are lol.
I mean this veryrespectfully, but I don't actually think posts like this help the situation. Some people are frustrated and that's ok. Right now there is next to no communication from VR outside of the newsletter. While I acknowledge VR said this would happen during PF , it can be very frustrating especially for those who have donated at a higher level.
Kikadurr said:
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I think people need to take in the words of the great Aarons Rodgers and "R-E-L-A-X" and stop stirring up crap that does nothing but get the community all riled up for no reason at all, this entire topic was nothing but click bait knowing people would respond to it, so let's stop this now, and find something that's actually worth talking about, and not be the people that keep stirring the pot, you know who you are lol.I mean this veryrespectfully, but I don't actually think posts like this help the situation. Some people are frustrated and that's ok. Right now there is next to no communication from VR outside of the newsletter. While I acknowledge VR said this would happen during PF , it can be very frustrating especially for those who have donated at a higher level.
What? I'm asking the community to chill and not get sucked into what was obviously probably someone who created a new profile and wrote his single post on that profile to get a bunch of responses, but didn't want to do it on his orginal profile to avoid any drawbacks from it, it honestly quite simple to see that's what's going on, so instead of trying to point me out and how my post wasn't helping, maybe you should be saying making new profiles to make click bait posts in general don't help either.
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Kikadurr said:I think you missed my point ....also yes congrats on 1118 your count is impressive , I'm sure that means your opinion matters more.....
Honestly, decided to delete my post due to not wanting to further influence posting on this thread.
Grime said:What I’m curious about now Mr.Curious: is how you stumbled upon this sauce and what your intent is to insinuate it’s ingreedients in the manner that you have?
Well, he probably (rightly) wondered why, after all this time, the terrible website and forum have not undergone any changes and so he looked up the name of the person that Visionary Realms hired as their web developer and then saw that she is no longer with the company.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-codes
Kittik said:Is it normal for a person to go through 7 jobs in 5 years?
Whatever it was didn’t last longer then a year so that’s a hard win imo.
Still not cool to insinuate foul play when all you got is an employment record.
Aaron Thomas and Mary Conley are the individuals in question for the website and forums. Aaron is still employed by Visionary Realms. What likely occured was much of the work over the last seven months was completed and where it was best to keep only one on during the release. She was likely a partial hire to cover most of the groundwork as that's fairly common with supplemental hiring. This is usually under a contract though. When I was working with Raytheon, my contract was with systems approach limitations as it was based on the duration of the project I was in charge of. Because of that, my contract was for 27 months with renegotioations under continual or a stretch assignment. Considering that, it's not abnormal to have her under contract for an odd number of months, in this case, seven months.
It helps to understand also that the VIP forums are not within this website and that appears to be a more advanced format than here.
https://pa.pantheonmmo.com/index.php?/register/
My opinion personally is I couldn't care less about the quality of the forums as long as resources are directed as much into the development of the game as possible. However, I am also aware that it's the face for the game for a lot of prospective people and that to include the issues with the pledge system doesn't work in their favor when it comes to making people feel comfortable when deciding to donate for this project.
If they are concerned about investment, one would think this would be at the forefront of their work, but it appears it's not as they seem fine with it where almost all of the capital appears to be in development of the game.
Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Syrif said:Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Brad failed to complete his previous two games. Whats your point?
zewtastic said:Syrif said:Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Brad failed to complete his previous two games. Whats your point?
Its arguable that he was stripped of creative control, therefore they became something that was no longer his.
Double post again. Sorry VR and janitors.
zewtastic said:Syrif said:Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Brad failed to complete his previous two games. Whats your point?
LOL! Correction: SOE failed both Brad and us in completing and/or ruining those games (EQ included)! Nothing new regarding SOE; it screwed over Everquest, Brad, and the community. It also dissolved Verant Interactive, killed creativity, and then implemented poor and lousy management of EQ, EQ2, VR etc. EQNext? Lol. Visionary Realms is NOT SOE. What's your point?
Syrif said:zewtastic said:Syrif said:Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Brad failed to complete his previous two games. Whats your point?
LOL! Correction: SOE failed both Brad and us in completing and/or ruining those games (EQ included)! Nothing new regarding SOE; it screwed over Everquest, Brad, and the community. It also dissolved Verant Interactive, killed creativity, and then implemented poor and lousy management of EQ, EQ2, VR etc. EQNext? Lol. Visionary Realms is NOT SOE. What's your point?
You don't appear to know the history here.
Without SOE EQ might never have made it into existence.
And Verant was involved with Microsoft in the development of Vanguard. Which SoE also saved when MS walked away.
Designing a game is not the same as bringing it to fruition. That's an entirely different skillset.
While I was no SoE fan, nor a Smedley fan - I have to appreciate they brought the games live to players. And last I checked EQ is still alive.
zewtastic said:Syrif said:zewtastic said:Syrif said:Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I believe it will. This isn't directed at you, but all I can say is thank goodness this game is being developed by Visionary Realms and not a few people who post on these forums.
Brad failed to complete his previous two games. Whats your point?
LOL! Correction: SOE failed both Brad and us in completing and/or ruining those games (EQ included)! Nothing new regarding SOE; it screwed over Everquest, Brad, and the community. It also dissolved Verant Interactive, killed creativity, and then implemented poor and lousy management of EQ, EQ2, VR etc. EQNext? Lol. Visionary Realms is NOT SOE. What's your point?
You don't appear to know the history here.
Without SOE EQ might never have made it into existence.
And Verant was involved with Microsoft in the development of Vanguard. Which SoE also saved when MS walked away.
Designing a game is not the same as bringing it to fruition. That's an entirely different skillset.
While I was no SoE fan, nor a Smedley fan - I have to appreciate they brought the games live to players. And last I checked EQ is still alive.
I know my history just fine, but thank you. And actually, Verant Interactive with Brad and several others did Classic Everquest (Sigil with Brad was Vanguard). SOE dissolved Verant Interactive from within and chose the direction of poor management, gutting, and stupid decision making instead. We all know what Microsoft did as well, that's no secret. And, SOE saved absolutely nothing; they destroyed a good game with good vision (Vanguard) when they took over to make a buck. Again. They did the same thing to Classic Everquest. Other games too. They gutted anything good about these games. This time NO SOE to ruin Brad/VR's creativity and vision. Moral of the story: SOE and Smedley were terrible. Brad is awesome. Brad's original visions for Classic Everquest and Vanguard were awesome (but ruined thanks to SOE). And Visionary Realms is awesome. You are wrong to claim Brad failed. Perhaps you recheck. I am not going to argue any further about this - that's done as far as I care.
Ive yet to see anything to worry me with the development of Pantheon.
I get it with PF, they are building the core.
After the core is ready, only then is it time to ramp up in content production. The core mechanics of every game takes time to get right. When developing game logic its often an iterative approach with lots of playtesting to tweak all the hooks, handles, various logical paths, triggers, etc. All while stitching together everything from content management pipelines to data management and manipulation routines. While also building server code to provide world state logic out for clients to render.
Some of the client footage and demo videos that we've seen have been amazing. The climbing stuff is going to change the whole dynamics of what is possible for zone layouts and player mobility.
Shout out to everyone at VR working hard and plugging away at it.
Crullos said:I am starting to feel like this game is never going to be released
I thought this post would have been moved to off-topic by now, but it’s still here and I’m bored so.....
OP,
On the one hand I’m sure you are long-time supporter of Pantheon...
But on the other hand you’ve literally made only one post on the forums and it was this one which is pretty disingenuous and troll-like.
Assuming your comment was genuine, my suggestion is to make a logical argument for why you are “losing hope” as I’m sure there a plenty of helpful community members that will be able to diffuse your concerns.
But as you didn’t articulate the basis for your feelings of hopelessness people won‘t be able to engage you in a discussion.
Forums are better-suited for discussions and social media like Twitter I think are better suited for close-ended expressions of sentiment.
Just kidding, I’m not on Twitter or most other social media, I don’t really know what they are used for.