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Why Do Modern MMORPG's Suck?

    • 1281 posts
    April 19, 2020 4:41 PM PDT

    Here's one guys opinion that really seems to play into the direction Pantheon is going.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juR8h1htw5k

    • 1404 posts
    April 20, 2020 9:49 PM PDT

    Thanks for sharing this bigdogchris, I have to say I agree with him on pretty much everything he said.  This is why is concerns me every time people push QOL items, or that 2 hour goal of VR's, or "at least a couple of portals" ALL those kinds of things are what gave us the games we have today, that none of us want to play.

    As I've said before we might know what we "want" but we don't know what's good for us.

    • 53 posts
    April 22, 2020 1:37 PM PDT

    Loved It :)

    • 1281 posts
    April 24, 2020 12:57 PM PDT

    He has several videos up about this subject, I agree with most of it. Here's another one on fast travel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgTvbKzKRlo

    • 2053 posts
    April 24, 2020 9:53 PM PDT

    That was great! Thanks for posting it bdc.

    Now, how do we get him to come play Pantheon when it releases :)

    • 384 posts
    April 26, 2020 7:31 PM PDT

    Very Nice! He does a great job of quantifying the things that made those early games memorable.

    Thanks for sharing - I'd never caught any of his videos before but I'll check them out now.

    • 197 posts
    May 3, 2020 3:41 PM PDT

    Agreed, he certainly gets it. Here is one he did on META in MMOs. https://youtu.be/cg_l28DsJoI

    I commented asking him if he was following Pantheon’s development at all, and he replied saying he wasn’t, but hoped VR the best. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t be interest in playing Pantheon given his perspective on things. 

    • 810 posts
    May 19, 2020 10:42 AM PDT

    Convenience is a great description of what so many games do wrong.  "Convenience kills adventure" 

    I have been against the META builds, mini maps, quest markers, LFG and Raid finders, wanting auction houses to have steep "taxes" I never thought of finding a single word for it all.

    • 947 posts
    May 19, 2020 6:02 PM PDT

    This was a great video.  I have argued some of these points many times - to the point where I feel like he quoted my statements about losing the "MM" part of an "MMORPG" (j/k of course).

    I think the last 7 mins was great when he explained "how to fix" MMOs; in summary, understanding that no MMO is perfect, and that socializing will ultimately be up to us as the player - don't rely on the game to force you to socialize or otherwise create a social environment for you.