I think your coming around might be part of VR's devious irl "Acclimation System". I look at the graphics now and they look exactly the same as when they first made the switch! And i don't *think* im blind. Any changes have probably been quite minor.
Haha (I do like the joke). Whatever changes have been made, they've all led toward something better than what was originally shown. How many minor changes does it take to add up to a major improvement?
justdrop said:chenzeme said:You're hijacking the thread right now. This is a thread about appreciation for the community for getting changes made. If I were OP I'd request you not post in it at all since you requested the same of others in your threads anytime they decided to provide their opinions.Sweety said:Its too much when threads are hijacked to say the same thing over and over, especially when the original post is totally unrelated. Once, twice, three times, fine. Seven, eight, or more, it just isn't fine and in mho, is too much.chenzeme said: Totally agree that complaining was the right thing to do. But there was too much complaining by the same people regurgitating the same old same old. Make a point, move on.It worked. So it would seem we didn’t complain to much.
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justdrop said:
chenzeme said:
Sweety said:
chenzeme said:
Totally agree that complaining was the right thing to do. But there was too much complaining by the same people regurgitating the same old same old. Make a point, move on.
It worked. So it would seem we didn’t complain to much.
Its too much when threads are hijacked to say the same thing over and over, especially when the original post is totally unrelated. Once, twice, three times, fine. Seven, eight, or more, it just isn't fine and in mho, is too much.
You're hijacking the thread right now. This is a thread about appreciation for the community for getting changes made. If I were OP I'd request you not post in it at all since you requested the same of others in your threads anytime they decided to provide their opinions.
chenzeme said:
Sweety said:
chenzeme said:
Totally agree that complaining was the right thing to do. But there was too much complaining by the same people regurgitating the same old same old. Make a point, move on.
It worked. So it would seem we didn’t complain to much.
Its too much when threads are hijacked to say the same thing over and over, especially when the original post is totally unrelated. Once, twice, three times, fine. Seven, eight, or more, it just isn't fine and in mho, is too much.
Prevenge said:
They put out the news about 247 and were immediately met with displeasure from all of their major Youtube channel supporters, Cohh's public posts, the entirety of Reddit, the Youtube comments on their videos and the initial wave of negative/constructive posts in the forums as well.
But it's cute that you actually think this was because of your non-stop off-topic verbal diarrhea in other people's topics for the last 3 weeks. Super helpful, yes, thank you.
Ranarius said:
I think your coming around might be part of VR's devious irl "Acclimation System". I look at the graphics now and they look exactly the same as when they first made the switch! And i don't *think* im blind. Any changes have probably been quite minor.
Haha (I do like the joke). Whatever changes have been made, they've all led toward something better than what was originally shown. How many minor changes does it take to add up to a major improvement?
Sweety said: Seems those of us that were wise enough to constantly complaining were right. /bow https://www.pantheonmmo.com/pantheon-returns-to-the-mmorpg-format/
Orrr, now stick with me here....
We took feedback from key, knowledgeable sources and used that to make a decision.
Savanja said:Nope. Don’t believe that for a second. Trust has been lost. Don’t try to save face after making a huge mistake.Sweety said: Seems those of us that were wise enough to constantly complaining were right. /bow https://www.pantheonmmo.com/pantheon-returns-to-the-mmorpg-format/Orrr, now stick with me here....
We took feedback from key, knowledgeable sources and used that to make a decision.
Savanja said:Wow, snark and condescension might not be the best posture from VR right now. Just a tip from one of your unknowledgable dumbass customers.Sweety said: Seems those of us that were wise enough to constantly complaining were right. /bow https://www.pantheonmmo.com/pantheon-returns-to-the-mmorpg-format/Orrr, now stick with me here....
We took feedback from key, knowledgeable sources and used that to make a decision.
lotuss79 said:
Wow, snark and condescension might not be the best posture from VR right now. Just a tip from one of your unknowledgeable dumbass customers.
Wow... This thread ended up... exactly as full of obnoxious toxic self-important dbags as I predicted it would.
No, its not the excessively endless and non-constructive complaining that got this change done. It's not your win. It's very VERY likely, largely major investors and the more civil and understanding people who simply and rationally "disagreed" with it, that caused the change.
On cue, the whiners have been emboldened by the false perception that they "won", and are working towards tripling down on the art change as a result. Complete with the most obnoxious attitudes of trying to speak for everybody when spouting their personal views, even going as far as to insult and diminish everyone that does not agree with them.
Facts are, the 247 change had VERY bad optics implications that they must have felt would cause more harm than good in the long run. And the art style difference is NOT as bad or as big of an issue as its pretended to be. Millions upon MILLIONS of people have been fine with the hand painted art style for 2 decades, with WoW. That is undeniable fact. The style itself is proven. People are fine with it, or even like it. It ages well. And its easier/quicker to produce. You can have an issue with the specific expression of that art style, as in quality of the output or artist (I think what I have seen so far needs a bit of work for example), but stop pretending the style itself is bad. It isn't. In fact, its far more Artistic than realistic graphics.
I am fine either way. I can appreciate either graphic style. And due to the gains of using the hand-painted style, I completely support it.
Just felt I had to chime in because of the whiners trying to promote a false perception while toxically attacking views that don't fully embrace theirs. Few people who disagree are going to even want to jump into this thread, because its just a self-congratulatory circle-jerk where if you don't agree, you are not responded to in a civil way at all. For that, I commend and stand with those who do speak up against the whiners.
DarkAkuma said:
Wow... This thread ended up... exactly as full of obnoxious toxic self-important dbags as I predicted it would.
No, its not the excessively endless and non-constructive complaining that got this change done. It's not your win. It's very VERY likely, largely major investors and the more civil and understanding people who simply and rationally "disagreed" with it, that caused the change.
On cue, the whiners have been emboldened by the false perception that they "won", and are working towards tripling down on the art change as a result. Complete with the most obnoxious attitudes of trying to speak for everybody when spouting their personal views, even going as far as to insult and diminish everyone that does not agree with them.
Facts are, the 247 change had VERY bad optics implications that they must have felt would cause more harm than good in the long run. And the art style difference is NOT as bad or as big of an issue as its pretended to be. Millions upon MILLIONS of people have been fine with the hand painted art style for 2 decades, with WoW. That is undeniable fact. The style itself is proven. People are fine with it, or even like it. It ages well. And its easier/quicker to produce. You can have an issue with the specific expression of that art style, as in quality of the output or artist (I think what I have seen so far needs a bit of work for example), but stop pretending the style itself is bad. It isn't. In fact, its far more Artistic than realistic graphics.
I am fine either way. I can appreciate either graphic style. And due to the gains of using the hand-painted style, I completely support it.
Just felt I had to chime in because of the whiners trying to promote a false perception while toxically attacking views that don't fully embrace theirs. Few people who disagree are going to even want to jump into this thread, because its just a self-congratulatory circle-jerk where if you don't agree, you are not responded to in a civil way at all. For that, I commend and stand with those who do speak up against the whiners.
DarkAkuma said:
Wow... This thread ended up... exactly as full of obnoxious toxic self-important dbags as I predicted it would.
No, its not the excessively endless and non-constructive complaining that got this change done. It's not your win. It's very VERY likely, largely major investors and the more civil and understanding people who simply and rationally "disagreed" with it, that caused the change.
On cue, the whiners have been emboldened by the false perception that they "won", and are working towards tripling down on the art change as a result. Complete with the most obnoxious attitudes of trying to speak for everybody when spouting their personal views, even going as far as to insult and diminish everyone that does not agree with them.
Facts are, the 247 change had VERY bad optics implications that they must have felt would cause more harm than good in the long run. And the art style difference is NOT as bad or as big of an issue as its pretended to be. Millions upon MILLIONS of people have been fine with the hand painted art style for 2 decades, with WoW. That is undeniable fact. The style itself is proven. People are fine with it, or even like it. It ages well. And its easier/quicker to produce. You can have an issue with the specific expression of that art style, as in quality of the output or artist (I think what I have seen so far needs a bit of work for example), but stop pretending the style itself is bad. It isn't. In fact, its far more Artistic than realistic graphics.
I am fine either way. I can appreciate either graphic style. And due to the gains of using the hand-painted style, I completely support it.
Just felt I had to chime in because of the whiners trying to promote a false perception while toxically attacking views that don't fully embrace theirs. Few people who disagree are going to even want to jump into this thread, because its just a self-congratulatory circle-jerk where if you don't agree, you are not responded to in a civil way at all. For that, I commend and stand with those who do speak up against the whiners.