How many of you Fantheons out there are into raiding? #MMORPG #communitymatters
Twitter Poll for fun: https://twitter.com/PantheonMMO/status/1072099536355516418
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Hehe I’m totally a Fantheon. I’d say what I care about the most is community with raiding being right after that. I enjoy anything from small 2-group (12 person content) on up to 5-6ish groups (36 person raids). Some may require more than 40 people. Where players and guilds figure things out, and where there is more emphasis on community/guildplay/strategy/creativity than there is on ‘balance.’ Where thinking matters again. I also think it would be great to have intense crafting that requires quite a bit of work - a crafting system that matters just as much as raiding. Perhaps some things may require both crafting and raiding. :)
No, it doesn't interest me much, so if I've exhausted my non-raid possibilities at max level, I'm more likely to roll an alt and start over, also to experience another class and another race/starting city.
But of course I will come raiding if my guild needs me for something.
I look forward to seeing how VR evolves raiding for MMO's. It's a critical ingredient in the overall recipe. There are countless players and guilds out there who want to enjoy high level teamwork that extends beyond your traditional 6 player group. Raiding is the lifeblood for many guilds because it allows everybody to come together in an effort to overcome challenging PVE obstacles. There are other activities that can pull people together, too, but raiding is a pillar, and nothing can replace it.
Ghastlee said:
this!
p.s. Raiding is nice for top levels, it even used to be my thing. but it should not be the main focus of the game.
p.s.2: i would prefer 12 people raids rather than 24 just from the perspective of logistical overhead.
to gather 12 people and waiting for the main tank is quicker than to gather 24 people and waiting for two tanks three healers and five CC who forgot to put their alarm clock or fighting with their significant other.
I don't post often though I keep a close watch on the state of the game. The phrase raiding brings specific ideas to most peoples minds but doesn't have to actually entail the exact concepts that those people are familiar with. I'm one of those old FFXI players and I personally would love to see content early on that requires larger group play. I'm sure this topic has been discussed over and over, I just hope that the devs have considered FFXI content style like CoP missions and Salvage going forward.
Ill say for the majority that do come from EQ Hell yes. Some of us are getting older though, so 24/7 is impossible.
TLP servers did bring ppl back to raid fyi
I like raiding. To me its a testament to leadership, if the leadership is good and instructions are good then everyone has a good time. Its a kind of entertainment even if you fail. Of course there is some ego, like going to see a concert where the headliner is the raid leader- kind of but with more interaction from the raid members.
-maybe this is the next wave, imagine a twitcher being a raid leader - becoming a new form of entertainer-with assistants or core few on "stage" with them perhaps even to the point of queing in music snippets for emphasis. Getting more intense, think of the thrilling - and emotionia (yes, yelling, or enthusiastic speaking , I get it, I am not offended, its the zeitgeist) - command and response of military precision like the outburst in Red October of the sonar guy "Go Dallas!"
Then layering down to group interaction, where we can make comments or jokes and seek consolation for our own minor mishaps without embarrasing ourselves, like "go where"? or seek quick help.
Plus the loots!
However, as far as intense heroics- I prefer groups. Nothing like a tight group or 2 or 3 groups doing content way above their skill level and surviving- and the loots!
in both scenarios, even if I dont get anything I just like to see; see the monsters up close, see the event, the theatrics, the drama in the framework of the game. Not player drama- unless its intended RP stuff but usually that happens outside of raids and boundaries are clear where it takes place or when thrown in for flavor.
Huge "YES!" to raiding. Without the big baddies to fight there is little for an adventurer to look forward to other than retirement. What will the max level players do at max level? And let's face it, within n months after release the majority of active players will be max level. A couple years out and the vast majority of characters played actively will be max level. Without raids to provide goals there isn't much left to do aside from drinking onesself into oblivion nightly at the local inn.
raided in eq1, up to elemental PoP. Did vex thal, ssra, all that Luclin stuff, nagafen, vox, ToV. EQ2 as well, although we were very casual then, and did one tier back to keep it that way. I suppose if you consider Warhammer online city sieges (and the rest) raiding, did that. Raided a ton in RIFT, actually enjoyed the mechanics more there than EQ1 because of the flexibility of classes and you could put competent people in different roles without having to bench them.
Overall, I never really liked it. I've grown to loathe and despise the "bring xx friends, get three things everyone already has" mechanic of chasing 5% more efficiency, from EQ1 especially. So many better options, now, that foster co-op instead of stab your friends.
Only really participated because of the social aspect of doing something fun wth more friends, yet, I enjoyed single grouping far more, because I got to know those people better, and there was zero drama, unlike raiding.
Myself, I would prefer raiding was exclusively tied to larger world affecting plot mechanics, so guilds affect the plot of the story and "compete" to drive the storyline the way they want. That would let good/neutral/evil/NPC guilds actually play their role.
But everyone loves chasing their loot pixels, so it seems unlikely we'll see such a thing in Pantheon.
Ultimately stopped raiding EQ1 TLP because of the policy of the guilds there regarding awarding DKP to Bots/boxes. I have a line, and that's it, evidently.
I prefer challenging single-group content rather than multi-group content, mostly because 99% of the characters life and play time, you learn to play a certain way, then " Surprise! " now you get to play an entirely different way! Yay! (no, not really)
I am very much into raiding. Not hardcore, but I do make it a point to try and down all the raid bosses in era atleast once. Raids are very important for the vision of Pantheon. Raids make you humbled when you see something that can wipe you and a lot of other people out. Takes the hero image right out of you imo.
I am super into raiding. I love the group challenge and the way devs can get wildly creative with boss mechanics. It's definitely one of my favorite things to do in an MMO!
(An addendum: I'm not a fan of raids that involve MASSIVE amounts of people. 25 is generally my upper limit.)
Kilsin said:How many of you Fantheons out there are into raiding? #MMORPG #communitymatters
Twitter Poll for fun: https://twitter.com/PantheonMMO/status/1072099536355516418
Yes, absolutely. Raiding is my favorite activity as I enjoy being part of something far larger than myself. EQ1 raids of 72 players, DAoC relic raids, Shadowbane city raids, EVE Online hellcamps and territory invasions..all were far more memorable than anything group level. Bring on the raids I say.
EDIT: And now that I'm older (much, much older) than my EQ1 days, I have even more time to devote to long raids. Bring on the PoFear corpse runs! :)
