Great stream again guys. The Tower looks amazing, as do the NPC's.
Cohh is quite a good puller, btw.
Great stream as always!
Here is a link to my recap: https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/6076/bazgrim-s-05-02-17-stream-recap
Finill said:Love the end, where you got in a sticky situation, it is really where the skill level of players will shine.
It certainly is ;)
P.S. Brad stop breaking my mez punk! haha :P
Amazing part 2 finish!! Joppa you did outstanding work clarifying any obfuscations from the first stream; worded it perfectly (apart from the recurring mic issues haha) and covered all angles/areas of community concern. Many doubts turned into "hmm ok we'll wait and see," and it was exciting to specifically see the younger demographic (teenagers) saying their age and excitement for the game and progress to come (a debate broke out about the gameplay/slower group style being too outdated for anyone but older people to play). Community feedback was highly positive, with combat being the only real area of concern for the minority. The only recurring question I can recall that went unanswered is the stage of funding Pantheon is at. People are unclear what stage A completion really means (it's so relative/case sensitive that the community can't grasp what it really means). It may behoove to make a formal address, for many potential investors received the disclaimer Brad and another said about major accreditted investors as meaning "no more small-time community funding really being needed." Anyhow thank you for the hard work and entertaining stream. Looks like now it's time for the real waiting game *cringe*
PS Kilsin was a riot on stream lollll - many laughs from the stream monsters
The more I see the more I want in. Great stream. Everything just made me want to jump right in. At this early stage its looking great!
One question I saw but wasnt asked was quite important with what was shown; what will stop a monk running through and training mobs to a boss and have their party follow with no agro? Then the monk FDs near the boss and waits for the agros to wander off again? In this way, the entire party gets to a boss without needing to fight their way through. I know theoretically, the monk could be rooted, but what else would stop that kind of exploitation? On a similar note, what would stop a monk from FDing when a party is about to wipe, will monks be able to rez a party member and save the party? If so, that would make monks just about essential for every group.
chenzeme said:The more I see the more I want in. Great stream. Everything just made me want to jump right in. At this early stage its looking great!
One question I saw but wasnt asked was quite important with what was shown; what will stop a monk running through and training mobs to a boss and have their party follow with no agro? Then the monk FDs near the boss and waits for the agros to wander off again? In this way, the entire party gets to a boss without needing to fight their way through. I know theoretically, the monk could be rooted, but what else would stop that kind of exploitation? On a similar note, what would stop a monk from FDing when a party is about to wipe, will monks be able to rez a party member and save the party? If so, that would make monks just about essential for every group.
Necros in EQ could FD and rez. They were often used to rez the first cleric in a raid wipe to get the rest of raid rezzed and back ready to fight. Despite being one of the most powerful classes in the game the Necro never was in high demand in groups. They were seen more as a solo class.
As for a monk training the mobs to a boss and FDing and the group following behind as soon as the monk FD the mobs would aggro the other members of the party because of aggro range. I imagine that when the group ran past the mobs that were following the monk they would get aggro once the monk FD then the monk would clear aggro and all the mobs would then aggro on the rest of the group.
Zuljan said:Amazing part 2 finish!! Joppa you did outstanding work clarifying any obfuscations from the first stream; worded it perfectly (apart from the recurring mic issues haha) and covered all angles/areas of community concern. Many doubts turned into "hmm ok we'll wait and see," and it was exciting to specifically see the younger demographic (teenagers) saying their age and excitement for the game and progress to come (a debate broke out about the gameplay/slower group style being too outdated for anyone but older people to play). Community feedback was highly positive, with combat being the only real area of concern for the minority. The only recurring question I can recall that went unanswered is the stage of funding Pantheon is at. People are unclear what stage A completion really means (it's so relative/case sensitive that the community can't grasp what it really means). It may behoove to make a formal address, for many potential investors received the disclaimer Brad and another said about major accreditted investors as meaning "no more small-time community funding really being needed." Anyhow thank you for the hard work and entertaining stream. Looks like now it's time for the real waiting game *cringe*
PS Kilsin was a riot on stream lollll - many laughs from the stream monsters
Great feedback man, thank you!
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Haha, I am glad you liked it man, lots of jumping overboard because I wasn't allowed to be sneaky and do anything else! Although watching it back I think I ticked Cohh off by mezzing him a bunch of times at the end which is why he wanted to push me off the edge! lol :D
I really enjoyed the streams. Mostly due to the content of the questions that were asked and the generally good and informitive answers that were given in return. I play another mmo and generally when they give free Q/A time there, the questions that they choose to answer or people decide to ask are pretty... stupid. So it is nice to here some good info when people get a chance to ask.
Cromulent: As for a monk training the mobs to a boss and FDing and the group following behind as soon as the monk FD the mobs would aggro the other members of the party because of aggro range. I imagine that when the group ran past the mobs that were following the monk they would get aggro once the monk FD then the monk would clear aggro and all the mobs would then aggro on the rest of the group.
Im sure I saw a point where some of the group had agroed and others hadnt. After the mob finished the agroed, it simply walked off. Which is where my point came from. I am sure there will be something to stop monks getting to places very easily, but I just wanted a little official clarification. :)
Great stream guys!!! The more I see the more I can't believe a game like this is being made in this day and age...an old-school game with a modern take...I love it....
chenzeme said:The more I see the more I want in. Great stream. Everything just made me want to jump right in. At this early stage its looking great!
One question I saw but wasnt asked was quite important with what was shown; what will stop a monk running through and training mobs to a boss and have their party follow with no agro? Then the monk FDs near the boss and waits for the agros to wander off again? In this way, the entire party gets to a boss without needing to fight their way through. I know theoretically, the monk could be rooted, but what else would stop that kind of exploitation? On a similar note, what would stop a monk from FDing when a party is about to wipe, will monks be able to rez a party member and save the party? If so, that would make monks just about essential for every group.
Just my own personal take, I understand the concern but part of what I like about older mmos is the ability to use your jobs and abilities in creative ways. I don't consider something like this an exploit since you are using game mechanics to move your party forward. It's not like finding an invisible wall that mobs can't pass or something or some other issue that should be addressed. Plus who's to say that the lesser mobs won't have incentives to have people go after then as well! Of course one mishap with training mobs and FD'ing could lead to one massive headache if it's not pulled off flawlessly, I'd say if your willing to make the gamble you should be rewarded!
chenzeme said:One question I saw but wasnt asked was quite important with what was shown; what will stop a monk running through and training mobs to a boss and have their party follow with no agro? Then the monk FDs near the boss and waits for the agros to wander off again? In this way, the entire party gets to a boss without needing to fight their way through. I know theoretically, the monk could be rooted, but what else would stop that kind of exploitation? On a similar note, what would stop a monk from FDing when a party is about to wipe, will monks be able to rez a party member and save the party? If so, that would make monks just about essential for every group.
Personally, I'm all for high risk/high reward allowances in the game. I can think of logistically why this specific example would be difficult (group has to follow the monk, mobs walk back through the group to their spawn point, may need to clear room near boss, etc.) But if you could pull it off, would be pretty fun/cool.
Btw, you're scenario actually existed in EQ. A necromancer could FD and rez, not to mention corpse summon. There were other options as well, Bard group invis, lull (debuffs the mobs effective aggro range). Tried a couple myself. They were always extremely dangerous. If you messed up, you were dead. And that brougth on a corpse run and loss of xp.
As a final note, I really hope they allow this kind of play. My brother and I used to duo a Necro/Enchanter in lower guk. We'd charm a mob to tank, mez the adds, necro dots and then charm another mob and kill the prior charmed mob who was now at half health. It was risky, required a good amount of coordination, and a lot of fun. We died several times to either charm breaking or too many adds, or something, but was still possible. EQ really took a hit when they started adding mobs you couldn't CC. This is one of my big hopes for Pantheon. Difficult content that can be done in different ways.
I have watched these streams at least twice each now. I have also spent countless hours today reading post. Can't say I have been this excited about the digital world in a very long time its actually been a decade since I felt this good about an MMORPG. (I stress the rpg part) As it seems the MMO industry has forgotten that part of the game.