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Ornate Robes or Shiny Plate?

    • 3 posts
    July 25, 2019 8:58 PM PDT
    Full on, shiny or dun dinted, battle-scarred platemail with bits of leather and cloth. Basically, as close to what you would envisage in a heavily armoured battlepriest wielding a hefty mace.

    If we're going to be in the thick of battle even as we heal through direct heals, power shields and direct melee damage to enemies, the heftier the armour look, the better.
    • 5 posts
    August 3, 2019 10:21 AM PDT

    I personally, think plate... 

    Robes are for mages!

    • 11 posts
    November 23, 2019 4:54 AM PST

    As a D&D player, way back, i dont mean 6th 5th or even 2nd edition. I mean the very 1st iteration, when elves was a not race but a class of it own. Cleric to me is a plate wearing miliant of the church, what modern RPG have goven the paladin role too.

    So plate and shield with one handed mace for me!


    This post was edited by MushyMel at November 24, 2019 5:42 AM PST
    • 331 posts
    November 25, 2019 1:21 PM PST

    I'd like to see both variants - plate armor gives huge survivability while cloth gives much better healing/casting potential - perhaps becouse of wearing plate armor mana cost of spells is increased by 50-100% and/or the casting time is slightly prolonged. 

    If VR is aiming for one primary armor type for clerics I'd like to see something like on the pics from the beginning of this thread.

    • 2476 posts
    November 25, 2019 4:02 PM PST

    Hegenox said:

    I'd like to see both variants - plate armor gives huge survivability while cloth gives much better healing/casting potential - perhaps becouse of wearing plate armor mana cost of spells is increased by 50-100% and/or the casting time is slightly prolonged. 

    If VR is aiming for one primary armor type for clerics I'd like to see something like on the pics from the beginning of this thread.

    Sounds like that would offer no real option, you'd never wear plate if that were the case. 

    • 331 posts
    November 25, 2019 5:18 PM PST

    Iksar said:

    Hegenox said:

    I'd like to see both variants - plate armor gives huge survivability while cloth gives much better healing/casting potential - perhaps becouse of wearing plate armor mana cost of spells is increased by 50-100% and/or the casting time is slightly prolonged. 

    If VR is aiming for one primary armor type for clerics I'd like to see something like on the pics from the beginning of this thread.

    Sounds like that would offer no real option, you'd never wear plate if that were the case. 

     

    You would if some mobs/bosses favoured tactic of going after healer sometimes dropping tanks aggro etc - everything have to be correctly balanced though. If there is no downside to plate over cloth then there is no reason of wearing cloth - so the situation is identical. 

    • 2476 posts
    November 26, 2019 10:54 AM PST

    Hegenox said:

    You would if some mobs/bosses favoured tactic of going after healer sometimes dropping tanks aggro etc - everything have to be correctly balanced though. If there is no downside to plate over cloth then there is no reason of wearing cloth - so the situation is identical. 

    There are two others healers who can't ever wear plate. If those mobs/bosses existed in that way and plate was such a determining factor or survival then RIP anyone not a cleric. 

    • 331 posts
    November 26, 2019 11:24 AM PST

    Determining? Hardly. But there may be times that it will save your behind - and that's the point - armor would be more situational. Maybe other party healers will die and you'll be forced to ress them while taking a little beating. Maybe I went overboard with the numbers in my example - it could be toned down. But it's hardly any novelty in RPGs - usually worked just fine

    • 2476 posts
    November 26, 2019 2:26 PM PST

    Even in D&D armor/shields didn't affect casting for divine spellcasters... What RPGs have employed this for healers? 

     

     

    • 331 posts
    November 27, 2019 1:01 AM PST

    Iksar said:

    Even in D&D armor/shields didn't affect casting for divine spellcasters... What RPGs have employed this for healers? 

     

     

     

    Eg.:From the more recent ones Pillars of Eternity and its "Recovery Speed". From the older games and closer to home (MMO genre) - Lineage 2 - although heavy/plate sets didn't provide any penalties (as far as I remember, though I havent play in years), robes had very good enhancements to casting speed and MP bonus (among other things).

    • 1848 posts
    November 30, 2019 11:26 AM PST

    Shiny plate all the way. Maybe a tabard and cloak also.

    • 212 posts
    December 5, 2019 12:26 PM PST

    Beefcake said:

    Shiny plate all the way. Maybe a tabard and cloak also.

     

    This is my take as well though.... if the Clerics want a plate and raiment hybrid approach.... sounds cool as well.