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Giving Humans ALL the class options is wrong.

    • 2 posts
    March 8, 2019 3:59 PM PST

    Yes they can usually fill a LOT of the classes in MMOs and more than the other races offered, but ... letting them do it ALL is really silly imo.  The game is centered around groups and specific roles and they just hand everything to humans?  Major flaw imo ...


    This post was edited by Sapper524 at March 8, 2019 3:59 PM PST
    • 2411 posts
    March 8, 2019 4:55 PM PST

    It's likely due to human being the most played race in just about any MMO/RPG, the one race that everyone can relate to/identify with. It ensures there is at least one race that can appeal to pretty much anyone while not locking them out from any particular class. 

    • 64 posts
    March 8, 2019 6:09 PM PST

    I don't know why people would play a Human in a fantasy game. 

    • 745 posts
    March 13, 2019 3:59 PM PDT

    You have to keep in mind that everyone playing this game is in fact human (though I have my doubts sometimes).  So from the most baseline of RP standpoints, you have to give people the ability to directly transport themselves into game, or at least a re-imagining of the human they would like to be (or play).  The in game response to this tends to be that humans are the most broadly attributed race, generally the worst choice for pure min/maxers.

    I don't think its a bad thing, and I certainly don't think it's "just wrong".  I can see how you might disagree, especially if you're one who has no interest in playing human, but I can't see how its objectively the wrong decision.  In other words, I can't see how this ends up having a massive impact one way or another to warrant calling it wrong.

    • 235 posts
    March 26, 2019 12:59 PM PDT

    Iksar said:

    It's likely due to human being the most played race in just about any MMO/RPG, the one race that everyone can relate to/identify with. It ensures there is at least one race that can appeal to pretty much anyone while not locking them out from any particular class. 

    I would add that, historically speaking, humans have the potential for every kind of (good and/or bad) behavior, desire, goal, motivation, etc., and they find a way to achieve their goals. So, it makes sense to me, at least, that fickle humans would branch off in every direction to pursue whatever their hearts desired.

    • 51 posts
    April 19, 2019 1:20 AM PDT

    Eh? It's typical even of the most group-centric games that have ever been.

    • 23 posts
    May 17, 2019 12:52 AM PDT

    I agree with Percipiens.  Human's have historically been adaptive and resilient.  Human's being able to fill all of the classes is right on point.

    • 467 posts
    May 17, 2019 6:48 AM PDT

    Agreed. It's one of their racial bonuses. 

    • 34 posts
    October 10, 2019 12:56 PM PDT
    This might be done partially in an effort to make a main city everyone can go to. It would have trainers for every class and its neutrality potentially means every race / alignment is welcome.
    • 658 posts
    October 14, 2019 7:37 PM PDT

    Iksar said:

    It's likely due to human being the most played race in just about any MMO/RPG, the one race that everyone can relate to/identify with. It ensures there is at least one race that can appeal to pretty much anyone while not locking them out from any particular class. 

    This is counterintuitive to having race/class restirictions.  The race/class matrix literally ensures that people that want to play a specific race may not be able to play a specific class, therefore "locking them out from a particular class".  And humans are only the most played race in games that restrict players from being the race/class combo that they want - in a fantasy MMO that allows all/all humans are not the most played race.  I am NOT advocating for all/all, but I'm simply saying that a lot of people only play humans when its the most convinient or more aesthetically pleasing (not simply because they are human... a lot of males play female characters... not because they want to be female, but because they are "typically" more aesthetically pleasing than the male models).

    Counterfleche said:

    This might be done partially in an effort to make a main city everyone can go to. It would have trainers for every class and its neutrality potentially means every race / alignment is welcome.

    I believe this is one of the reasons as well @Counterfleche - they are putting a LOT of emphasis/time/money on Thronefast and want that to be the major city used by all.

    Percipiens said:

    I would add that, historically speaking, humans have the potential for every kind of (good and/or bad) behavior, desire, goal, motivation, etc., and they find a way to achieve their goals. So, it makes sense to me, at least, that fickle humans would branch off in every direction to pursue whatever their hearts desired.

    You could use this same logic to argue why humans should NOT be able to "master" every class... because they're so fickle.  I mean that would make sense if humans couldn't attain the last level or something.  Jacks of all trades, masters of none.

    Or do you really know some human shaman and wizards IRL?  That too would make sense then... because humans can be everything historically speaking I mean.  :p


    This post was edited by Darch at October 14, 2019 7:54 PM PDT